Student: Is the "one-eyed Ford" something you just made up now?
AG: No , the "one-eyed Ford" is a famous American-Indian twentieth-century.. It’s a great line! – It’s one of the great lines in America .. of the, as-yet, unacademicized poetry. The many many versions of the "one-eyed Ford" song (South-West - Oklahoma, actually - I heard it last year... last heard it (with Harry Smith) in Anadarko, Oklahoma) - “My one-eyed Ford”! – It’s a great line!
So… I don’t know. He [Basil Bunting] was suggesting.. each step is measure, each step is a measure, measure (of) the sounds that the body makes in time, that, with each step, from each step, you can measure the sounds that the body makes in time, as it steps. So the drums are.. (they) give you the ratio of those sounds, whether there’s spaces in-between, or how they relate to each other.
Student: There has been something written too on the relationship between the beat, drum sounds...
AG: ...to the heart?
Student: ..and trance, (the) inducing (of) trance.
to be continued
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