Lisa Phillips' 1995 Beat Culture and the New America show at the Whitney Museum in New York has already been spotlighted here but it was an important show and a significant moment - "the scroll" (on display to the public for the first time), Jay Defeo's "The Rose" (in all its immensity) - an important contextualizing of both a West Coast and an East Coast cultural explosion and avant-garde.
Allen was alive then and more than happy to participate in the publicity surrounding the event, guesting on Charlie Rose's PBS talk show. His appearance is announced thus:
"(Tonight), a conversation with Allen Ginsberg, the poet who helped to shape The Beat Generation. He is joined by Steven Watson, author of "The Birth of The Beat Generation", Nat Hentoff , a columnist at The Village Voice and George Herms, the California artist whose art exemplified the Beat aesthetic. The group reflects on the importance of the Beat Generation in American History."
Unfortunately, this lively conversation has been sandwiched in between two absolutely unrelated segments - a (relatively) long opening segment on contemporaneous child welfare scandals in New York City and an interview with former NBC and PBS executive, Larry Grossman. Allen and company come in approximately 22 minutes in, if you're willing to wait -or fast forward - and the discussion lasts for about twenty minutes.